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He'll be set up like how he is in the first movie, with the performance-enhancers. His story, though, will be played out more like it is in the comics, with the whole amnesia subplot occuring in the middle of the third season. I'll eventually adapt Amazing #121-122 towards the Season 3 finale.
It's supposed to play off the movies. Also, in Sensational, Goblin really only did kill off one Board member. He had a hit list of the others that he never got to, as it was supposed to play off of TAS. The only other Oscorp employee he killed was Mendell Stromm, who wasn't even on the Board.
Because I wanted to do something a little more... original. The rewrite stemmed from a saga a wrote out for A Puff of Responsibility. I just took that saga (because it was comprised of my own original ideas for the mythos.) and removed the Powerpuff Girls element from it.
If you like the original idea for Irresponsible so much, go ahead and use it for one of your series'.
Well it sounds cool but how will the avengers fight against that many kaijus and how is it more insane than secret wars (that thing had a giant purple force of the universe a near omnipotent former fantastic four villain , an alien costume and an ultipotent disco man )?
As far as my knowledge extends to, there have been 2 other Spidey/PPG crossover stories on the site. One is based on the Powerpuff Girls anime, but is currently on hiatus. The other was based on the original show, but it was taken down a few months after I posted A Puff of Responsibility.
Yeah, the Insidious Eight is kinda cheesy. The original creator of the article put that there long before I arrived on the site. It was one thing on TAS because of the censorship restrictions, but it doesn't really fit in Spectacular.
As far as what I need help with, writing the last couple of episodes, mainly both parts of Breeding Grounds.
first i recommend that you give spectacular 13 episodes per season , for breeding grounds i recommend that for part 2 you instead call it something else like hatchilings .Another thing take kraven , the enforcers and kangaroo out of part 1
Great for the first arc i thought that maybe peter is placed in Victorian Englad (which is where mj ended up) and tries taking her to the future at the same time he fights against time displaced carnage and Green Goblin with the help from venom .
The way I heard it, according to people who like to tie TAS with Unlimited, Peter tells Mary Jane his secret identity and explains everything that had happened since her "return" during Spider-Man's fight with Green Goblin II. They simply remain together, as they are already married legally, as if nothing had happened during the whole clone debacle. It would probably be best if we did that.
Another thing, can we keep this in the actual continuity of the show instead of placing it in it's own timeline for once?
I don't want to follow into Unlimited, though, as that would fuel the misconception that TAS and Unlimited are canon with one another, which they aren't.
As for villains, I was thinking about new villains to possibly use. Rose is a definite possibility, but I was also thinking about seeing Miles Warren actually don the costume and persona of the Jackal so that the actual Clone Saga happens. The one villain I want to put in though, as I was so confused watching TAS as a kid, is the Sandman.
Ok i also would introduce comic book electro as we only got nazi one and i would love if we had a demogoblin/ghost rider/dormamu plot.How do you want to introduce sandman as a wild pack member or as a criminal?
A criminal would be nice. A possible story I had was that Flint Marko was a career criminal on the run from Sable and the Wild Pack, who are hunting him for a bounty. Spider-Man soon gets caught up in the middle of the mess and discovers very quickly Marko's powers. However, Marko has a sympathetic side and regrets what he does, and that he's only doing this because of his ailing daughter.
Thanks, also maybe we could intentionally re use animation (which we will try to recreate from the first season) and never have spidey punch antone in Radioactive as an in joke to the original show , what do you think?
Also, next time, if I'm talking to X about adopting abandoned pages for our purposes, let me talk to him. It gets kind of overbearing when you come along and try to tell him stuff we need RIGHT when I'm doing the same thing.
...Make it less like Spectacular? Dude, I'm sorry, but the entire thing is pretty much a mirror of Spectacular no matter which way you look at it.
Try to make it less like what everyone else does, like what I did for Sensational (made it like the mainstream comics from the 60's to the 90's.) and Irresponsible (my own take on the classic mythos.).
...Change Spidey's design? I dunno. Spectacular's design is... I'm gonna be honest, kind of overrated. I mean, it's cool and all, don't get me wrong, but the fact that EVERYONE tries to emulate EVERYTHING about Spectacular is getting old at this point.
Try to do something different with the design. Make the design based on the artwork of an underrated artist, such as Pat Olliffe.
I think that it's... decent. Saying that it's the best thing ever seen in literature would be a lie, but saying that it's the death of writing would... also be a lie. There are things I do like about it, but there are things I don't at the same time.
If I could offer some constructive criticism; 1. You asked me once if I thought that the series should have 13 episodes per season (at the time it had 26), to which I replied yes. A fan-made web series doesn't need to have that many episodes in it's season. Even most television shows don't have that many episodes in each season. Most super hero shows, like Daredevil, only have about 20 episodes at most. If there's one thing that you should take away from Spectacular is the episode count. 13 episodes is perfect in my opinion.
2. Even though you changed a lot of things with this new rewrite... the thing still mirrors Spectacular in many ways. As I've said before, and I'm gonna be honest, basing EVERYTHING off of Ultimate/Spectacular/the movies is getting, well... REALLY, REALLY OLD. Those interpretations of the character and the overall universe are realistic, sure, but that seems to be the trend with almost all things super hero ("cough"cough"Christopher Nolan"cough"cough") and it's as stale as Chewbacca's dried up shit-shards on his ass hair. If anything, you should try and move away from the style and look of Spectacular and try to emulate something else. You claim that you want to build up the supporting cast like Spectacular, here's a better piece of media that builds up the characters even BETTER than Spectacular; SPIDER-MAN LOVES MARY JANE.
3. The scripts are jarring, I'm gonna be honest. I appreciate liberties being taken when it comes to this site and it's pages, but the scripts are AWFUL. Not the scripts themselves, those are fine, top notch writing. But what's awful about them is the fact that they really take away from the person reading the article and then coming to the scripts, which are just jarring to say the least. I know you said once that you normally would forget about the script if you put into, say, a Word document, but here's an even better idea; POST THE SCRIPTS ON FANFICTION.NET. That place is the PERFECT place for those scripts to be. They're appropriate in terms of the layout and design, and you can post unfinished documents onto the site and then go back and update them later.
Bottom line, I don't mean to sound like an arrogant asshole nitpicking every single thing you've done, but I think that now's the time where someone comes in and tells you what you COULD, not SHOULD, COULD fix on your property, and what can be done better. I'm telling you this for not just your sake, but for the sake and integrity of the site.
I don't know about taking influence about using Spider-Man loves Mary Jane as inspiration as the comic does not develop any of the villains and while i like that version of the characters they are just not what i'm looking for.
I might go with either vulture telepathically controlling his wings and throwing razor-sharp artificial feathers at his targets. Also maybe he could carry a gun like the tas counterpart or have electric talons or grenades (goblin bombs prototypes) . Another thing i might have vulture set up devices after the first fight with spider-man to have an advantage.Opinions , buddy?
Hey Max apparently the new Spider-Man cartoon is also gonna have Anaya Corazon besides the other spiders , this is getting too similar to ultimate for a supposed "back to basics" show .What do you think?
I mean, it would be one thing if it was only Anya and Peter, because that would at least make since considering their status as mainstream characters. But nooo! "Gotta throw in Miles and Gwen for the sake of marketing!"
And you know what's worse : instead of doing classic spider stories they are going to do Fan Slott's stories which will most likely be forgetten in a couple of years such as Superior Spider-Man and Spider-Spider-Island.Also on a neutral point the design for the villains is great.
I'm taking a leave of abscence from the website for an indefinite amount of time. My 79-year old grandmother (the last living grandparent I have) has been diagnosed with breast cancer and I need time to digest it, and when it comes down to the surgury, I honestly don't know if she's going to survive. Basically, I'm doing what Bionicle did before he left the site completely,
Nah. In Civil War, Spidey was only supposed to have been simply preventing muggings and car accidents and the like up until that point. I'd imagine after Homecoming, when Stark has more faith in Peter and the latter himself has more self-confidence in his own ability, he'd probably get involved in the darker aspects of the MCU's New York City, such as organized crime. This was mainly inspired by the early works of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko (which was also the basis for The Spectacular Spider-Man).
Well honestly I think that the mcu at some point will use ock electro and sandman as they are some of spidey' most popular villains.And I see your point about organized crime.I just don't get why , if daredevil and spidey met, he wouldn't try to get him to join the defenders.
1) Ock, Sandman, and Electro won't be appearing in the MCU at any point, at least in the foreseable future, as that is one of the terms in the deal between Marvel and Sony.
2) I realistically can't see Daredevil trying to recruit a 15-year old Spider-Man into a small team being put together to fight a group of Japanese terrorists. Sure, he's gone toe to toe with Captain America and did battle with a "flying monster guy" with a makeshift costume and equipment, but he's still a KID. Plus, I don't think it would fly with Tony if he did that considering that Spider-Man is, in fact, in training for the Avengers.
I don't know it kinda feels like a copy of Harry's deal (supervillain father and being Peter's friend) looking like Vulture's comic daughter in law .That seems to be a pattern in this film with Ned Leeds being basically Ganke with another name and flash being Steve ditko's jerkish Harry.
Well i recommend that you introduce some of hammerhead's rivals such as Silver-mane , Rose or Don Fortunato.Also you should intoduce villains that the movies probably will never use like : beetle , answer , hydroman , the lobo brothers, basilisk , Morbius,Speedemon, Bloodshed, Boomerang , Deliah the enforcers and any minor or second tier villain you could think of.I recommend you do a gang war story and try not to use the villains who are too big for the stroyline such as green goblin and octopus.At some point you could use venom as there are no plans for him on the mcu.
I was thinking about using Silvermane during development of Season 1, but I really want this story to focus on Hammerhead's war with Kingpin (the reasons of which will be explained in Season 2), and as such, I'll probably only downgrade Silvermane to a cameo appearance at most. I will use the Rose in Season 1 as a bodyguard to Kingpin's empire, and then reveal his identity in Season 2. The Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus also won't be introduced until Season 2, either.
I think you missed the point of my question. I was asking about synopsis' for the remaining Season 1 episodes. I'm basing much of the series on (low and behold) The Spectacular Spider-Man, as I think it would have the best kind of story and character development for the MCU, and since you're a big SSM nut, I figured you could give me some pointers for how to write the episodes (NOTE: Season 1 is supposed to end with Fisk regaining control of his empire and Hammerhead's arrest).
I think you should try and focus a bit more on Peter's social life .After being defeated by electro the two are ambushed by hydro-man (kingping's supergoon ) and peter manages to defeat them.Afterwards he finds ned's sister and they have a falling out. Maybe in the next episode peter tires helping the beautiful new girl Gwen Stacy with science as hammmerhead sends the mercenary tarantula at him .In a later episode kingpin or hammerhead somehow get vulture's gear and give it to rainero drago.For inspiration you should read the spidey comics.
Gwen Stacy is actually confirmed to be in Homecoming.
Also, the idea behind Ned's sister is that it's actually revealed that she and Ned's father is actually Tombstone. She later changes her name from Janice Leeds to Janice Lincoln, and, in Season 2, she becomes Beetle.
She was confirmed... I wanna say a month and a half ago. She was revealed on the casting call sheet. You can also see her in the Homecoming trailer in that shot where Liz is putting up the Homecoming banner.
I know it just seems like sony is desperate , the only relation between Kraven and Mysterio is that both where original sinister sixers and both took a shotgun to the head.It would make more sense if it were chameleon and kraven instead of ol' bubble head ,since they have a really interesting dynamic.But who cares about interesting stories when you can have gimmicks (like spider-man homecoming)?
Okay back to the sonyverse thing the worst part is that we won't see any of those characters actually interacting with our favourite webhead.On an unrelated note which are your top 10 favorite Spider-Man has episodes?
The use for LPP: TSSM is the one about most of the villains coming from an ozcorp accident except the goblins (this is Norman trying to replicate spidey in himself and anpther person ) ,the crimelords and the sin eater.
A second Green Goblin appears (this time with wings instead of a glider) and begins a crime wave. Unlike in the comics or even Spectacular, this Goblin has his own territory, his own organization, his own funding, his own... everything. He finally makes himself known when he attacks Peter Parker's first high school reunion. This Goblin also possesses knowledge of Spider-Man's dual identity, and makes apparent use of this in their fights. Eventually, this Goblin is revealed to be, not Harry, but a female Goblin, a woman going by the name of (insert female character's name here).
Sounds really good she could be either Carlie Cooper (a forensic trainee that is dating Peter) or Lilly Holister (Either Harry's girlfriend or Norman's illegitimate daugter in this version).It's really fitting too since Astonishing is supposed to start a college student Parker.
One, it's set in high school. I really like how the movie calls back to 80s-era high school comedy movies while still keeping it's charm as a super-hero movie. It absolutely nails Peter's high school years in a modern way. Peter's gotta study for his science quiz while also making time to look for the Vulture and his men. It genuinely feels like a Spider-Man story right out of the Lee/Ditko run on The Amazing Spider-Man, complete with all the drama that ensues with Peter's inability to keep on his commitments.
Two, I like the characters. Peter, Ned, and Adrian Toomes are strongly written characters who really made me like the film all that more. Peter Parker. Nerdy kid living in 21st Century-era Queens, New York. He tries to do the right thing, even when he gets overconfindent and cocky, and always tries to save lives when possible.
Ned Leeds, in spite being the weakest of my favorite characters, is the strongest supporting cast, I found. He's the kind of guy who just wants to be involved in his friend's life because of how exciting it is. He's also a great friend to Peter, most prominently at the end when he plays the "guy in the chair" role for Peter.
Adrian Toomes is one of the best villains in the MCU, hands down, right up there with Loki and Zemo. He's interesting in the fact that he deludes himself into believing that what he's doing is right. It's similar to Doctor Octopus from Spider-Man 2, only... more natural. Ock was being manipulated by his tentacles to do evil. In Homecoming, Toomes is naturally blinded by the idea that Tony Stark cheated him out of business and lives like a king. Toomes lives with his family in a beautiful house with, I imagine, lots of money.
So, yeah. Spider-Man 2 is still a great film, don't get me wrong, but Homecoming is just... stronger. It's closer to the classic core of the character and, contrary to what you said, doesn't boggle down with the MCU "formula" in setting up a franchise. It teased it's sequel and it's sequel alone.
I dunno about being closer to the original comics.I never see him studying in this film he doesn't even want to be there till the end.This is much closer to the ultimate comics if anything the ditto comics were more about life's troubles not win someone's approval only to once you have it realize that you didn't want it all along .To quote a review "Spider-Man as a comic book character is hugely popular owing to his tremendous mass appeal that stems from his strong connection with the common man both in and out of the red-blue costume.
I've known Peter since childhood as a shy orphan guy who lives with his uncle and aunt in a lower-middle class family that wrestles financial hardships to make ends meet. Even at school, his shy personality goes against him in terms of not being assertive in communicating his thoughts to anyone, leave aside expressing his liking to the girl he adores.
However, Jon Watts introduces us to an altogether different Peter Parker, who takes life as it comes and is not at all stressed out due to the challenges life presents. It is acceptable to let your creative juices flow freely to bring freshness t the script by exploring the character and its life from a different dimension. However, doing so by losing touch with his comic book portrayal as a simpleton preoccupied with challenges and gloominess surrounding his circumstances and personality, which is the original source of inspiration for all of the different versions, including this one, I believe is unjust." This basically tells my biggest problem whith the movie.Also in the original comic Peter was only in high school for 28 issues plus 2 annuals and many miniseries set during that time period sooo . Comparatively he only graduated college in issue 185 (technically he didn't graduate but whatever).
While I did find The characters to be enjoyable especially thoomes (i do agree that he is the third best mcu villain but that's the mcu biggest weakness and let's be honest Spider-Man has all the best villains in marvel [besides doom and magneto but they are with Fox]) exept Leeds who just felt like comedic relief which , in the opinion of a loser from Argentina , felt kind of forced (even if it was funny).Peter was a bit too optimistic he only has one moment where I saw Spider-Man (when he lifted the piece of rubble) , hell in this universe Jameson is right Peter causes more harm than good.Most of the high school cast were fine , except for Liz who acts totally stupid regarding Peter , think about it guy ditches your debate team (which means everything for you) does not try to talk to you after you almost died (which kind of was his fault) and bails out of your party would you go out whith him to a dance?
While Vulture is great his connection to Peter came right out of nowhere while in Spider-Man 2 Otto and Peter had a menor mentoree thing going.On another front Vulture knows that he is doing bad things while octopus is being brainwashed by the arms to complete their main objective and he actually stops being evil at the end unlike Thoomes.
Peter at the end only learns that he can take down criminal without the suit he still does the thing that made tony angry to being with (destruction of propriety , he almost crashes a plane into a heavily populated area).
Also the film isn't mcu centric hmm well take all of the mcu elements away from this film and nobody and I mean nobody would get it , in comparison take all of the mcu out form Captain America Winter soldier and it still works as a spy movie.
This was still a great movie but in my option doesn't compare to the two raimi films.This one is more or less an origin in disguise as he only becomes Spider-Man at the end while during the movie he is learning how to be Spider-Man.
Another reason I like this movie more is because of it's fun, lighthearted tone. Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2, as much as I love them, start off at a somewhat dark point.To quote ComicBookCast2, I'd imagine that the series will eventually get darker as it progresses, because it's character development. The stories will get darker, and the characters will be richer and more interesting.
Homecoming did tremendous in reviews and is absolutely annihilating the box office so far. The Raimi movies will all hold a special place in our hearts, but don't think that there won't come a Spider-Man movie that will topple Spider-Man 2. It's coming, trust me. If it isn't Homecoming, then it'll be another one.
On an unrelated note, I will be leaving tomorrow to go to Chicago (AGAIN) to attend G-Fest XXIV. I'll be gone 'till Sunday. In that time, I won't be active on this fanon (though I will try and be active on the Zilla Fanon Wiki, so try me there) as I need to be in the "kaiju mentality" for the convention.
I do hope we eventually get a better spidey film than 2 but I doubt it if they are gonna go in this direction.The critics don't actually read comics and they just didn't want the same thing and the movie delivered.
Man, i wish we had cool conventions here also don't worry just enjoy yourself